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Searching Q310

Every once in a while I’ll look at what people search for that leads them to Spirit Post. The top result is always some variation of Spirit Post, but ignoring that here are the top 5 topics for the last 3 months, with a little information to point searches in the right direction when possible.

1. NCATA, including NCSTA & John Blake

The National Collegiate Acrobatics and Tumbling Association (NCATA) was the most searched for topic over the last 3 months. This was likely due to the attention brought by the Quinnipiac trial and the NCATA website not being complete at that time. Now most information is available on the NCATA website.

2. Jeff Webb

Jeff Webb was the next most searched for topic. This was primarily due to the Quinnipiac trial, our letter to Jeff Webb, and his response to us.

3. NCA College Nationals 2010

There were several searches specifically about NCA College Nationals 2010. I have to assume readers are looking for Results.

4. Searching for Specific Events

There were many search looking for events, such as “cheer competitions in atlanta ga” or “cheerleading comp on Feb 12″ spread throughout the searches. Right now we don’t have an easy to use, comprehensive listing of competitions, but I think people are starting to realize the need for one. Now we just need to find someone to create it. In the meantime we list several major events on the Spirit Post Calendar.

5. US Finals 2011

US Finals 2011 rounded out the top 5. Dates and locations are now available on the US Finals website.

David Hanbery is Completely Wrong

This was emailed to David & Andre in response to Cheerleading, Gymnastics, or Emerging Sport:

David Hanbery is COMPLETELY wrong and UNEDUCATED on the topic he is speaking on. Shame on him just like every other person who sits back and talks and does nothing in “the fight”.

First of all, the NCSTA now called the NCATA (National Collegiate Acrobatics and Tumbling Association) is building a new sport called Acrobatics and Tumbling. In case Mr. Hanbery didn’t happen to look at the word “cheerLEADING”, let me point out that there is no cheering or leading in the new sport. This is precisely the fundamental difference between cheerleading and AAT (acrobatics and tumbling). The NCATA is not trying to take anything away from cheerleading. What they are trying to do, is format the skill set from an activity into a sport. I didn’t hear Mr. Hanbery crying out that cheerleading was a bad thing years ago when acrobatics and tumbling where introduced into the activity. Isn’t this exactly the same thing? The activity of cheerleading took a skill set from another sport (gymnastics) and incorporated it. So why is it so bad that the NCATA has now taken a skill set from another activity and incorporated it into a sport?

Why does Mr. Hanbery even attempt to bring the problems of gymnastics into the picture? Those might be valid problems, but they are gymnastics problems not AAT problems. Those issues are not automatically going to be issues in this sport just because they have the same governing body. It’s like saying when AAT reaches NCAA sport status that will make the sideline cheerleaders have to follow more rules and make changes. Duh….. sideline cheerleading is not considered an NCAA status sport and so none of those rules would apply.

Language is a reflex and a learned skill. It is very difficult to talk about AAT without using the word cheer because of the reflex-like association with where the sport came from. It is a learned skill to use the new name consistently and will take time. What Mr Hanbery is missing is that the activity of cheerleading is not the same as the sport of cheerleading. Changing the name is not denying any identity or selling out, but rather it is the recognition of the sport. It’s the understanding that it is different from leading crowds or cheering. It is the celebration of a skill set being formulated to meet the basic set up of any sport. Sometimes we loose sight that cheerleading was an activity that later incorporated sport-worthy skills, but was developed as a business or activity and not developed the way every other sport was developed. The NCATA is simply taking the lead on the college level of developing the sport in the image of all other sports so it can be recognized for its merits. No matter what the name, who the governing body might be, AAT is still evolved from cheerleading.

As far as the comments made about why bring this under USA Gymnastics….It’s obvious that Mr. Hanbery is uneducated on this topic. One of the requirements of the NCAA for emerging sport status is that you have a recognized governing body. At this time, the joke of a governing body known as USA Cheer is not suitable for this purpose. By adopting an governing body recognized by the Olympic organization and the NCAA, there is credibility for AAT that never would be gained under USA Cheer. The International Sport Accord basically laughed at USA Cheer and you know who, over their effort to begin the process of becoming recognized as an Olympic Sport.

The safety standards under USA Cheer, AACCA, are no where near the quality and level of other sports. The US Sports Academy develops most of the safety standards and certification for all National Federation of High School sports (NFHS) and many sports organizations. The academy is comprised of sport industry experts in their professions. Medical doctors, biomechanics, trainers, spinal injury specialists, lawyers (liability) and injury researchers work together in the academy to develop these certifications. The academy is currently about to announce it’s preferred certification for cheerleading. These standards blow the AACCA certification out of the water. Coming under gymnastics will bring to bare REAL science in developing safety standards that truly protect the health and well being of the athletes. Many of the current safety standards are industry written rules that protect the safety of a profit margin before the athlete.

It’s funny how so many people are suddenly standing up with a voice and ready to fight NOW. Where were people like Mr. Hanbery when Maryland started a varsity program and was calling out to others to do so. Why is it that so few states have a real competitive cheer season with teams that don’t cheer, but only compete (ie Michigan). Where were people like Mr. Hanbery who could have stood up in their own state and developed the sport in a true sport model? Don’t hate on the group of 6 schools that finally are getting the job done. How about you follow their lead and develop a true sport model in your town, region, state. When you see how difficult it is to do it alone, perhaps you will have some respect for the NCATA and the battle they are fighting for the college level.

So instead of everyone who was called to arms to fight this fight dialing Mr. Hanbery’s number, be more productive and supportive of the people who have actually tried to create opportunities for our young girls and women. Call the NCATA and offer your help. Support the organization that just brought our sport the pathway to NCAA emerging sport status. One of the dreams of every athlete is to win a National Championship and to win a gold medal in the Olympics. The NCATA just brought you the potential opportunity in the future to do both of those things. Maybe it’s just me, but I’ll take a name change to achieve that!.

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Cheerleading, Gymnastics, or Emerging Sport

NCSTA, or now the NCATA, has announced that USA Gymnastics will now “sanction” their events. The general definition of sanction means that the USAG will give official authorization or approval to do the competitions. I am sticking with this definition until the NCSTA or the NCATA gives me more information. If you have heard John Blake speak on behalf of the NCSTA or the NCATA as I have, you would hear contradictory things like, we want competitive cheerleading to be a sport, we want to get away from calling it cheerleading, and it is a new and emerging sport.

There are many problems with this. As a new and emerging sport why are you enlisting the help of both cheerleading and gymnastics to promote your emerging sport? Cheerleading was bred from the fact that gymnastics was so limited in opportunities. I know as a former gymnastics coach that there are major problems with gymnastics. Gymnasts train many hours on many apparatus. This leads to stress injuries and burnout. The age at which success comes to gymnasts causes many participants to push very hard at an early age, and the very limited college opportunities lead to a major drop off of participants at older ages. Who does it benefit to have this relationship between the NCSTA/NCATA and USA Gymnastics?

Why would the NCSTA or the NCATA choose USA Gymnastics to “sanction” their events? I can only think of a few options.

  1. They are not smart enough to do it on their own. Is there not enough educated people within cheerleading, I mean the NCATA or the NCSTA, to put together their own governing body? Why do they need the help of the USAG? To me this classifies this as a non-emerging sport, but a new division of competition for the USAG. Let’s face it USA Gymnastics has had its share of problems. Don’t believe me? Check out The USAIGC! “We are flattered to see our USAIGC competitive rules and policies being adopted by other gymnastic organizations. Change is needed ….and our USAIGC Club Membership Clubs are leading this Change!” (USAIGC website) The USAIGC points out many apparent problems with the USAG. Take a look here http://www.usaigc.com/. Gymnastics has been plagued by problems with injuries, training, expense, and many others that you only need to search on the web to see.
  2. They need the help of the USA Gymnastics to get approval for Title IX, NCAA, or who knows where they want to take this (Olympics?)? If this is the case than we need to quit talking about them on Spirit Post or in any other cheerleading media because… THEY DO NOT WANT TO CLAIM US! They want the positive aspects of cheerleading under a different name. That is fine as it allows more opportunity for our athletes, but why do they need the USA Gymnastics endorsement to do this. I suppose this takes us back to #1. Maybe we mere cheerleaders are not smart enough to get the job done. Maybe they just need it done fast? Why? What’s the hurry?
  3. The announcement about the NCATA is up on the USA Gymnastics website (but has the logo of the NCSTA). They are so proud to be a part of this “New Sport.” Hey guys… It’s cheerleading! 6 rounds include compulsory, stunt, pyramid, basket toss, tumbling and a team routine. I coached gymnastics for years. Only one of these translate. I coached cheerleading for years. All of these translate. Quit degrading the millions of cheerleaders to please a board of non cheerleaders. Like I said in earlier posts, they will just change the name to get what they want. I was right.

Finally, why are they doing this? Safety? So I suppose all “sanctioned” meets will be on quality spring floors? There will be limits to what the athletes can do that match up with cheerleading or gymnastics? Who and what will the Board that decides things be made up of? Cheerleaders or gymnasts? Congrats to Azusa Pacific University, Baylor University, Fairmont State University, University of Maryland, University of Oregon and Quinnipiac University for moving forward in making cheerleading a recognized sport, but in my opinion, you sold out.

I am going to stand up now and say that all cheerleaders, parents of cheerleaders, coaches of cheerleaders, and supporters of cheerleading should stand up and fight the fight! We know that what we do is both athletic and competitive. If you do not like the way that some committee, judge, or school rules on it, get angry and fight it. A volleyball team at one of those universities did just that and saved their program. We should do the same and save the SPORT we all love! We are smart enough to get it done without the help of other associations.

I know that some will argue that we get our kids from gymnastics, but in my case, I get my kids from soccer, softball, track, volleyball, football, baseball, wakeboarding, or I just get good athletes and train them with my knowledge. I wonder if diving or BMX called on the support of USA Gymnastics because their kids flipped too? I do not think so. So, I am changing my name on Spirit Post from Faja to David Hanbery. My cell number is 601-906-6622 and my email is david@deepsouthspirit.com. To the USASF, the IEP, to Varisty, to Jam Brands, to parents, kids, and coaches, if you are ready to take cheerleading where it is going with or without us and where it needs to be, get in touch with me and I will fight my hardest to make that happen. Cheerleading has changed the world, and it is passed time for the world to change and recognize that.

David Hanbery

President and CEO
Deep South, Inc.

SPIRIT Roundtable Episode 3: The NCSTA Episode

SPIRIT Roundtable Episode 3: The NCSTA Episode, is now available. Roundtable guests were Joey Delaney, Head Coach of Ohio State All Girl Cheerleading, Felecia Mulkey, Head Coach of the University of Oregon Stunts & Gymnastics team, and Robert Spencer, Head Coach of Peachtree Ridge High School (GA).

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NCATA: NCSTA will sanction events through USA Gymnastics

September 2, 2010 – The National Collegiate Stunts and Tumbling Association today announced its decision to sanction its events through USA Gymnastics, the national governing body for gymnastics in the United States. Additionally, in an effort toward greater alignment of its activities with the gymnastics community, the NCSTA is changing its name to the National Collegiate Acrobatics and Tumbling Association (NCATA).

“USA Gymnastics is an established and respected governing body,” said John Blake, NCATA executive director. “We have made great strides as an organization and this developing sport. This serves as yet another catalyst for our expansion at the NCAA level, and provides the NCATA with an established protocol that supports our growth.”

“This is a natural extension for USA Gymnastics to work with the NCATA,” said Steve Penny, president of USA Gymnastics. “This sport combines many of the skills taught throughout gymnastics disciplines and provides a whole new level of opportunity for our athletes.”

USA Gymnastics is the non-profit, national governing body for gymnastics established in 1963. With more than 110,000 members, USA Gymnastics provides governance, training, development, education, growth and sport support for all of its disciplines, including men’s and women’s gymnastics, rhythmic gymnastics, acrobatic gymnastics and trampoline and tumbling.

The NCATA is the collegiate association organizing the skill set of acrobatics and tumbling for women. With a goal of reaching NCAA emerging sport status, the current member institutions of the NCATA – Azusa Pacific University, Baylor University, Fairmont State University, University of Maryland, University of Oregon and Quinnipiac University – are excited about the possibilities of this new alliance. Teams range in size, with a maximum of 40 women. NCATA athletes and coaches will become members of USA Gymnastics and adhere to the rules and policies of the organization.

“Many of our student-athletes come from the gymnastics community,” said Felecia Mulkey, head coach of the University of Oregon acrobatics and tumbling team. “This will be great for our development and the expansion of the sport at the collegiate level, creating new opportunities for female student-athletes.”

The all-female acrobatics and tumbling teams are recognized and treated as fully sponsored sports at their respective institutions and are in full compliance with NCAA rules and regulations. The purpose of an acrobatics and tumbling team is to represent a university six to eight times each season in a head-to-head competitive format against other collegiate acrobatics and tumbling teams. An NCATA meet includes six rounds – compulsory, stunt, pyramid, basket toss, tumbling and a team routine. The scoring system includes pre-determined start difficulty values for each skill in each round for consistent scoring by officials. The NCATA’s unique meet format with standardized scoring, officiating, and safety provide clear separation from other related sports or activities.

For more information on the NCATA (NCSTA), visit www.thencsta.org.

You can reach John Blake at john.blake@thencsta.org; phone: 678-283-8789

For more information on USA Gymnastics, visit www.usa-gymnastics.org.

John Blake

Executive Director
NCATA
www.thencata.org